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Who’s going to pay for a greener, global future?

Who’s going to pay for a greener, global future?

Looks like an interesting lead into the UNFCCC Warsaw negotiations.

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18 thoughts on “Who’s going to pay for a greener, global future?

  1. Thanks for this link. I have registered for the online participation: http://www.odi.org.uk/events on the Overseas Development Institute site.
    Also I am attending the Reconnecting with nature: a faith perspective at Leeds Uni. Tuesday 12 November 5pm. Hopefully I will not be late, my schedule makes it very tight for travel.
    Is anyone else participating in these events?

      • Thanks Jon, much appreciated.
        One of my online questions was picked and answered in the Guardian and the Overseas Development Institute live debate on climate change “Who’s going to pay for a greener, global future?” !!!! First time I’ve ever done anything like that!

      • A question for the faith perspective
        The ethical implications of behaviourist thinking has been on my mind for a while. A prominent behavioural psychologist is an advisor to the government, behavioural philosophy has had an important influence on economic theory, and there is a futurelearn course which questions traditional views on values. It is easy to see the lack of respect for the ontological nature of human beings, when electric shock treatment is considered funny and enjoyable when exploring the psychological nature of people. The symbol of hope – the rainbow, is used to demonstrate, to prove that we do not refer to inner values when making decisions, that it is not real. When the agony of a soul that prompts a suicidal reaction is mocked and seen as an illusion. It is behaviourist thinking that gives rise to the concept that Nature can be owned and traded on financial markets.

      • Is it possible to put together a thought experiment that deals with this? There are a lot of concepts there.

      • This comment and question is intended for this forum, I would not sabotage exploration of Muslim perspectives to make a point, I have too much respect for Values to do that.

      • Getting into a deeper theological debate on Islamic perspectives is something for reflective discussion and is outside my sphere of knowledge, though always willing to learn!

  2. Penny, if its convenient for you, could you kindly post your findings at the conferences you will be attending on your blog? I think it would be great info for all of us and others who are into environmental issues but can’t attend personally. Cheers!

      • The principles of justice and nature of values are always under threat, that’s why we have to keep returning to basic principles. It’s all too easy to pick up surface flotsam and convert it into policy.

  3. Everyone’s learning. I’m too. I think one of my best decisions in life so far is to have my tertiary education done in the UK. The countryside itself has taught me a lot. Without nature, there is no nurture. Without our biodiversity, we have no future. Hence I could say we are all stakeholders of a dying globe. For the price of man made destruction, we shall all pay dearly through poorer health and economic well being. Its all related. All of us need to pay for a greener global future only differing in extent and capacity. Or perhaps such establishments or countries who do not heed nature’s call are already beginning to pay the price they have put in. Nature has its uncanny ways of evening out with unfairness. I call that,’the Nature’s Law of Justice’. Cheers from the equator.

    • Jon, I would be most interested in your thoughts on the posts in my blog which has now started for real. I agree on the surface flotsam leading to policy, a lot of implications there!

      • a question for the faith perspective:
        my post on behaviourist thinking is probably inappropriate on this forum as it refers to another futurelearn course. There is a general question implicit however on economic theory and how principles and values are, and can be, incorporated for application to ecological problems, both in social terms and in ecological terms (e.g. protecting biodiversity). A thought experiment is a much better way to move thinking forward on this, many thanks.

  4. “Getting into a deeper theological debate on Islamic perspectives is something for reflective discussion and is outside my sphere of knowledge, though always willing to learn!”
    Being no expert myself on these matters I agree and am willing to learn too. However, I think economics is respected in Islamic thinking, and would be most interested in any views the panel might have on Islamic economic theory with regard to protecting our planet under the theme of “reconnecting with nature”, if appropriate.

  5. There is a possibility to engage in support for an effective outcome of the Warsaw convention on climate change here: http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Stand_with_the_Philippines/?cyCscdb
    The delegate for the Philipines has announced a hunger strike during the convention until agreement on effective action has been reached. The above link will send a message to the delegates supporting his plea.

    A recording of the meeting ‘who’s going to pay for a greener future’ that Jon posted a link to can be found here: http://www.odi.org.uk/events/3441-subsidies-climate-change-finance-cop19-green-future

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